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[Manta] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Manta vs RTRT controls


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  • From: Thiago Ize < >
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  • Subject: [Manta] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Manta vs RTRT controls
  • Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:08:38 -0600
I agree with both pete and steve. I like to use both operations and in real life I prefer to use a zoom rather than having to walk forward and backward. However, with a *virtual* camera where dolly and zoom take equal effort, I think dolly is much more useful since it doesn't cause any distortion when you want to "zoom out" and see more of the object (try to look at the entire default manta scene using only zoom). Dolly is even more useful when you have multiple objects that might be occluding each other or when you have a scene that you need to move around in. There are definitely occasions where I like to use a zoom, but those are not as common as dollying, so I think it makes sense to relegate the zoom to the more cumbersome control combination and make dollying the easier one to control.
Anyways, Dav, I hope this all answers why manta no longer does what rtrt does :-)

Thiago

Peter Shirley wrote:
I'd argue that zoom and dolly are both very natural operations...

On Jul 28, 2008, at 7:21 PM, Steven G. Parker wrote:

When using a real camera, you use zoom a lot more than dolly :)

Steve


On Jul 28, 2008, at 6:58 PM, Thiago Ize wrote:

For instance, in rtrt (or at least what manta used to have since I've never used rtrt) holding down the right mouse button and dragging the mouse would modify the camera FOV. To actually move the camera forward and backward you had to hold down the shift key in addition to right mouse button and dragging. I think I speak for 99% of people when I say that is crazy and should be the other way around (which it now is).

Thiago

Peter Shirley wrote:
I actually liked rtrt's controls... is there a reason you assign brain damage besides compatibility (which is huge, granted)?
On Jul 28, 2008, at 6:10 PM, Steven G. Parker wrote:

They were remapped to match every other modeling system on the planet instead of Steve's brain damaged world view. There is not a compatibility mode, but it probably would not be that hard to add one.
Steve

On Jul 28, 2008, at 5:28 PM, J. Davison de St. Germain wrote:

Hi All,

Are the mouse buttons mapped differently between Manta and RTRT? If so, is there a reason for tihs? Is there anyway to put Manta into RTRT compatibility mode?

    Thanks,
           Dav

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